Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/27/2004 08:11 AM House CRA

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HB 461-EMERGENCY SERVICES DISPATCH/911 SURCHARGE                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MORGAN announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  461, "An Act relating to  enhanced 911 surcharges                                                               
and  to emergency  services dispatch  systems of  municipalities,                                                               
certain   villages,  and   public  corporations   established  by                                                               
municipalities."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2830                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOLF  moved  that  the  committee  bring  out  of                                                               
subcommittee  CSHB  461,   Version  23-LS1633\W,  Cook,  4/21/04.                                                               
There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MORGAN remarked  that  Version W  doesn't  really fix  the                                                               
problem in the Bush, and  therefore the committee packet includes                                                               
an amendment  that would  provide a  solution for  the Bush.   He                                                               
indicated  that he  has spoken  with Representative  Kott on  the                                                               
matter as well as Bush constituents.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON disclosed  that  he  worked on  contract                                                               
with the Alaska Telephone Association  last summer, and therefore                                                               
he requested that he not have to vote on this matter.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SAMUELS  objected, and  therefore  Representative                                                               
Anderson was required to vote.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MORGAN  explained that  the amendment  would result  in the                                                               
state  providing  a  toll-free statewide  default  public  safety                                                               
answering point  (PSAP) for areas in  which there is no  local or                                                               
regional PSAP.  The amendment [Amendment 1] read as follows:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 2, following "enhanced,":                                                                                     
          Insert "for areas where there is no local or                                                                          
       regional public safety answering point, the state                                                                        
      shall provide a toll-free, statewide default public                                                                       
     safety answering point to which"                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, lines 3 and 4:                                                                                                     
          Delete "that provides wireline service to an area                                                                     
     outside a municipality"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 4, following "base":                                                                                          
          Insert "."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, lines 5 and 6:                                                                                                     
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2942                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA asked  if this amendment would  result in a                                                               
fiscal impact.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MORGAN replied  yes, and suggested that  perhaps two people                                                               
would be needed [to staff a statewide default PSAP].                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS  inquired as to  whether the [staff  for a                                                               
statewide  default PSAP]  could be  incorporated with  the Alaska                                                               
State Troopers.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA pointed out  that the Alaska State Troopers                                                               
are already stressed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MORGAN  informed the committee  that in Aniak if  one dials                                                               
911,  the   only  response  is  for   fire  and  life-threatening                                                               
situations.  However, a felony  or a crime which necessitates the                                                               
Alaska State Troopers  results in a long-distance  call to Bethel                                                               
so that the sergeant approve [the dispatch to Aniak].                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 04-14, SIDE B                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF  asked if anyone  knew where a 911  call from                                                               
Pilot Station would be directed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS  assumed that  it would  go to  the Alaska                                                               
State Troopers headquarters in Anchorage.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MORGAN interjected  that he  wasn't  sure a  911 call  for                                                               
Pilot  Station would  be  directed to  anyone,  unless the  local                                                               
telephone company directed it to  the local village public safety                                                               
officer  (VPSO).   In response  to Representative  Kookesh, Chair                                                               
Morgan   specified    that   the   amendment   would    fix   the                                                               
aforementioned.   He  related that  the Bush  telephone companies                                                               
believe 911 is a good idea,  but they also believe someone has to                                                               
available to answer the call.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF related  his assumption that a  911 call from                                                               
Levelock would  be routed to  King Salmon  or Naknek, which  is a                                                               
distance.   He  surmised that  the amendment  wouldn't require  a                                                               
short-time response.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MORGAN agreed,  and clarified  that  the amendment  merely                                                               
provide a person [to answer the 911 call].                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2894                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS opined that it  makes sense for a 911 call                                                               
to be  routed to King  Salmon or Naknek  where there is  a police                                                               
department.   He asked  if the statewide  default PSAP  should be                                                               
routed to the  closest borough police department,  where there is                                                               
already a 24-hour dispatch person.   Therefore, the language "the                                                               
state shall provide" means that  the closest police department is                                                               
where the call will be directed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA asked  whether  changing  the language  to                                                               
refer to  a regional  public safety hub  rather than  "the state"                                                               
would  eliminate  the  need  for a  fiscal  note,  and  therefore                                                               
possibly  have  a chance  of  passing.    She predicated  that  a                                                               
referral  to   the  House  Finance   Committee  would   kill  the                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KOOKESH   pointed   out    that   there   is   a                                                               
constitutional  requirement  for  the  state  to  provide  public                                                               
safety in this state.  If  VSPOs and Alaska State Troopers aren't                                                               
going  to be  placed in  every  community, then  there should  at                                                               
least be a  way in which to contact Alaska  State Troopers, which                                                               
is what this amendment would achieve.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2776                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON expressed  concern that  the members  of                                                               
the  Alaska  Telephone  Association  would  have  to  fund  this,                                                               
although  it's  for  public safety.    Therefore,  the  telephone                                                               
providers were nervous  because they didn't feel  that they could                                                               
afford  this.   However,  he agreed  with Representative  Kookesh                                                               
that there has to be some sort of  public safety.  If this is the                                                               
best means at  this juncture, he announced that  he would support                                                               
the amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA suggested  changing  the  language of  the                                                               
amendment  such  that it  refers  to  a "regional  public  safety                                                               
point" rather than specifying that "the state shall provide".                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS  pointed out that the  language "the state                                                               
shall provide"  doesn't mean that  the state  has to man  a PSAP.                                                               
There may be  some communities that would prefer 911  calls to be                                                               
routed to a specific location rather than a regional PSAP.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON  interjected that such a  language change                                                               
would probably  cause boroughs  to feel that  they are  forced to                                                               
pay for this system by employing staff.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  clarified that  she isn't  suggesting that                                                               
it be the borough, but rather the regional state [PSAP].                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MORGAN said that's what the amendment does.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2622                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVES CISSNA  and WOLF  moved that the  committee adopt                                                               
Amendment 1 [text provided previously].                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF objected for discussion purposes.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA asked if  a conceptual amendment specifying                                                               
that the  language "the state"  refers to the next  highest local                                                               
regional state  entity" could be  referred to the  next committee                                                               
of referral.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOOKESH opined that the amendment is worded fine.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON  explained that the amendment  means that                                                               
if there isn't a local or  regional PSAP, the state would have to                                                               
provide a toll-free  PSAP.  However, he noted  that the toll-free                                                               
PSAP may  be a dispatch point.   He related his  presumption that                                                               
it would be covered by the Department of Public Safety.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2543                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   WOLF  asked   if  the   amendment  is   allowing                                                               
communities in rural Alaska to opt-out  of the fee proposed in HB
461 for enhanced 911 services.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MORGAN related that the  rural telephone operators to which                                                               
he spoke aren't  going to opt-out because they  don't mind paying                                                               
the $1.00 fee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SAMUELS  said  that  he  read  the  amendment  to                                                               
specify  that the  phone call  is free,  but the  $1.00 per  line                                                               
would still be paid.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF withdrew his objection.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no further objections, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 2428                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF moved to report CSHB 461, Version 23-                                                                       
LS1633\W,  Cook,  4/21/04,  as  amended, out  of  committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations,  the accompanying fiscal note,  and a                                                               
forthcoming  fiscal  note.    There   being  no  objection,  CSHB
461(CRA)  was  reported from  the  House  Community and  Regional                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                                     

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